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	<title>Comments on: Is New Legislation A Death Warrant For IEDR?</title>
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		<title>by: John McCormac</title>
		<link>http://blog.whoisireland.com/2007/02/03/is-new-legislation-a-death-warrant-for-iedr/#comment-62335</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Apr 2007 15:20:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Due to historical mismanagement, .ie is not exactly a world player. Most of the bigger trademark holders don't take that much notice of it. However Adidas did take and win an IEDRP against Eubrowser over the cybersquatting of adidas.ie. There are other clear infringements of intellectual property in .ie as well. The US has the Cybersquatting legislation which makes it easier to prosecute a number of offences at once. With .ie, each case has to be treated separately.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Due to historical mismanagement, .ie is not exactly a world player. Most of the bigger trademark holders don&#8217;t take that much notice of it. However Adidas did take and win an IEDRP against Eubrowser over the cybersquatting of adidas.ie. There are other clear infringements of intellectual property in .ie as well. The US has the Cybersquatting legislation which makes it easier to prosecute a number of offences at once. With .ie, each case has to be treated separately.
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		<title>by: Lex Ferenda &#187; Dot IE and the Communications Regulation (Amendment) Bill</title>
		<link>http://blog.whoisireland.com/2007/02/03/is-new-legislation-a-death-warrant-for-iedr/#comment-56068</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 20:04:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>[...] And John at whoisireland.com says: 32.—(3) The Commission may make regulations for the purposes of this section, but only after consultation with the Minister for Enterprise, Trade and Employment and such other persons and public bodies (if any) as the Commission thinks appropriate. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] And John at whoisireland.com says: 32.—(3) The Commission may make regulations for the purposes of this section, but only after consultation with the Minister for Enterprise, Trade and Employment and such other persons and public bodies (if any) as the Commission thinks appropriate. [&#8230;]
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		<title>by: cearta.ie &#187; Blog Archive &#187; New Bills</title>
		<link>http://blog.whoisireland.com/2007/02/03/is-new-legislation-a-death-warrant-for-iedr/#comment-56011</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 17:56:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>[...] Updates: There are good discussions of the Bill in ElectricNews.net and by Barry O&#8217;Halloran in the Irish Times. John McCormac on whoisireland has written an extremely interesting and very detailed post on the IEDR issue. Required reading, methinks. And IEDR seem to have taken some pre-emptive action; according to a report in the Sunday Business Post, they cut the cost of a .ie domain name by 13% last week, and have begun to extoll its virtues: Proponents of the dot.ie domain say that it discourages spam and cyber squatting, and reassures customers and clients of the legitimacy of the domain owner&#8217;s business. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Updates: There are good discussions of the Bill in ElectricNews.net and by Barry O&#8217;Halloran in the Irish Times. John McCormac on whoisireland has written an extremely interesting and very detailed post on the IEDR issue. Required reading, methinks. And IEDR seem to have taken some pre-emptive action; according to a report in the Sunday Business Post, they cut the cost of a .ie domain name by 13% last week, and have begun to extoll its virtues: Proponents of the dot.ie domain say that it discourages spam and cyber squatting, and reassures customers and clients of the legitimacy of the domain owner&#8217;s business. [&#8230;]
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		<title>by: Legislation Affecting IE domains - Irish SEO, Marketing &#38; Webmaster Discussion</title>
		<link>http://blog.whoisireland.com/2007/02/03/is-new-legislation-a-death-warrant-for-iedr/#comment-55962</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Feb 2007 22:32:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.whoisireland.com/2007/02/03/is-new-legislation-a-death-warrant-for-iedr/#comment-55962</guid>
					<description>[...] Legislation Affecting IE domains   Irish Government To Kill IE ccTLD?  Is New Legislation A Death Warrant For IEDR? - WhoisIreland Review  __________________ Armchair.ie &#124; work&#124;Blog Tips&#124;Seo tips&#124;EU Domain ScandalTechie Toys&#124; Gadgets   Do you want your vbulletin site to be search engine friendly? Click here for info [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Legislation Affecting IE domains   Irish Government To Kill IE ccTLD?  Is New Legislation A Death Warrant For IEDR? - WhoisIreland Review  __________________ Armchair.ie | work|Blog Tips|Seo tips|EU Domain ScandalTechie Toys| Gadgets   Do you want your vbulletin site to be search engine friendly? Click here for info [&#8230;]
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		<title>by: Irish Government To Kill IE ccTLD?</title>
		<link>http://blog.whoisireland.com/2007/02/03/is-new-legislation-a-death-warrant-for-iedr/#comment-55959</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Feb 2007 21:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>[...] While I was in LA last week John sent me details of the Communications Regulation (Amendment) Bill 2007. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] While I was in LA last week John sent me details of the Communications Regulation (Amendment) Bill 2007. [&#8230;]
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		<title>by: John McCormac</title>
		<link>http://blog.whoisireland.com/2007/02/03/is-new-legislation-a-death-warrant-for-iedr/#comment-55757</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Feb 2007 02:28:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>It is an interesting bit of legislation Eoin,
It goes a lot farther than most people expected and I don't expect IEDR to be pleased with it. Some people in the industry are a bit worried as it might involve educating ComReg on the domains business and everyone has seen how well it has handled telcoms issues. 

I only picked it up because I'm still on the press list for the department. Ironically none of the Irish "technology" press seems to have looked at it. It was hardly being introduced in the same stealthy way that the data retention stuff was introduced. 

Nobody on the board of IEDR has any expertise in the domain/hosting business. In any genuine company, the board is meant to be a resource of expertise. If there had been real expertise and a chairman with industry expertise, then the .ie ccTLD would be in a lot better health than it is. Now it is competing with .com/net/org/biz/info/eu for registrations and almost breaking even. The lack of a personal subdomain means that all those new webmasters and personal registrations go right to .com/net/org/biz/info/eu rather than .ie ccTLD. That's tragic because .ie does not represent the Ireland as a result.

The decision was made, years ago by people who didn't have a clue about the domain business to keep .ie for businesses. It may have been a political decision or it could have been an IEDR one. In any case it was both wrong and stupid. But then with IEDR being a dumping ground for UCD and Telecom Eireann, commercial knowledge was scarce. These guys just weren't capable of operating in a free market and as the Fagan years demonstrated, were not capable of operating a registry.

Most of these amendments stem from that time. By giving ComReg the policy aspect and involving others in the decision making process it brings .ie ccTLD into the 20th century. But the penalties, including the appointment of an interim authority are the equivalent of strategic nuclear weapons.

At the moment, the industry/IEDR relationship has improved considerably. Though legally everything still exists at the whim of IEDR management. It is David Curtin who has effectively turned the operation around.

Perhaps the legislation is to be used more for deterrence and to keep IEDR working well. I wouldn't be surprised to see resignations from the board of IEDR if this thing becomes law as most of the board are there purely for CV purposes rather than to offer any expertise.

For those of us who watched the near destruction of .ie in recent years, the legislation is long overdue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is an interesting bit of legislation Eoin,<br />
It goes a lot farther than most people expected and I don&#8217;t expect IEDR to be pleased with it. Some people in the industry are a bit worried as it might involve educating ComReg on the domains business and everyone has seen how well it has handled telcoms issues. </p>
<p>I only picked it up because I&#8217;m still on the press list for the department. Ironically none of the Irish &#8220;technology&#8221; press seems to have looked at it. It was hardly being introduced in the same stealthy way that the data retention stuff was introduced. </p>
<p>Nobody on the board of IEDR has any expertise in the domain/hosting business. In any genuine company, the board is meant to be a resource of expertise. If there had been real expertise and a chairman with industry expertise, then the .ie ccTLD would be in a lot better health than it is. Now it is competing with .com/net/org/biz/info/eu for registrations and almost breaking even. The lack of a personal subdomain means that all those new webmasters and personal registrations go right to .com/net/org/biz/info/eu rather than .ie ccTLD. That&#8217;s tragic because .ie does not represent the Ireland as a result.</p>
<p>The decision was made, years ago by people who didn&#8217;t have a clue about the domain business to keep .ie for businesses. It may have been a political decision or it could have been an IEDR one. In any case it was both wrong and stupid. But then with IEDR being a dumping ground for UCD and Telecom Eireann, commercial knowledge was scarce. These guys just weren&#8217;t capable of operating in a free market and as the Fagan years demonstrated, were not capable of operating a registry.</p>
<p>Most of these amendments stem from that time. By giving ComReg the policy aspect and involving others in the decision making process it brings .ie ccTLD into the 20th century. But the penalties, including the appointment of an interim authority are the equivalent of strategic nuclear weapons.</p>
<p>At the moment, the industry/IEDR relationship has improved considerably. Though legally everything still exists at the whim of IEDR management. It is David Curtin who has effectively turned the operation around.</p>
<p>Perhaps the legislation is to be used more for deterrence and to keep IEDR working well. I wouldn&#8217;t be surprised to see resignations from the board of IEDR if this thing becomes law as most of the board are there purely for CV purposes rather than to offer any expertise.</p>
<p>For those of us who watched the near destruction of .ie in recent years, the legislation is long overdue.
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		<title>by: Eoin</title>
		<link>http://blog.whoisireland.com/2007/02/03/is-new-legislation-a-death-warrant-for-iedr/#comment-55755</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Feb 2007 00:58:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Couldn't agree more, and I've said so on &lt;a href="http://www.cearta.ie/?p=80" rel="nofollow"&gt;m blog&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Couldn&#8217;t agree more, and I&#8217;ve said so on <a href="http://www.cearta.ie/?p=80" rel="nofollow">m blog</a>.
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		<title>by: cearta.ie &#187; Blog Archive &#187; New Bills</title>
		<link>http://blog.whoisireland.com/2007/02/03/is-new-legislation-a-death-warrant-for-iedr/#comment-55754</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Feb 2007 00:51:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.whoisireland.com/2007/02/03/is-new-legislation-a-death-warrant-for-iedr/#comment-55754</guid>
					<description>[...] Update: John McCormac on whoisireland has written an extremely interesting and very detailed post on this issue. Required reading, methinks. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Update: John McCormac on whoisireland has written an extremely interesting and very detailed post on this issue. Required reading, methinks. [&#8230;]
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