Comments on: Adding .ie Domain History Information http://blog.whoisireland.com/2007/03/21/adding-ie-domain-history-information/ Search Engines, Domains, Statistics and Analysis Wed, 07 Jan 2009 12:19:07 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.4 by: John McCormac http://blog.whoisireland.com/2007/03/21/adding-ie-domain-history-information/#comment-60247 Fri, 23 Mar 2007 01:10:12 +0000 http://blog.whoisireland.com/2007/03/21/adding-ie-domain-history-information/#comment-60247 The data part is easy Danny, Integrating it with the pages might be the hard part. I was looking at some kind of callable php link or embedded javascript. The data part is easy Danny,
Integrating it with the pages might be the hard part. I was looking at some kind of callable php link or embedded javascript.

]]> by: John McCormac http://blog.whoisireland.com/2007/03/21/adding-ie-domain-history-information/#comment-60246 Fri, 23 Mar 2007 01:07:02 +0000 http://blog.whoisireland.com/2007/03/21/adding-ie-domain-history-information/#comment-60246 Perhaps .ie is not significant enough for Google to worry about Jason, With the dropped .ie domain, what would happen if the backlinks remain? Google may well miss the drop of a .ie domain unless it is actively spidering the site almost every day. The drop pattern on .ie can cause problems if a domain is dropped and reregistered between reloads. Some web directories and websites still have links back to the Web Ireland website even though it is long gone. Nua.ie also changed hands recently. It might be interesting to look at the link patterns there. Perhaps .ie is not significant enough for Google to worry about Jason,
With the dropped .ie domain, what would happen if the backlinks remain? Google may well miss the drop of a .ie domain unless it is actively spidering the site almost every day. The drop pattern on .ie can cause problems if a domain is dropped and reregistered between reloads. Some web directories and websites still have links back to the Web Ireland website even though it is long gone. Nua.ie also changed hands recently. It might be interesting to look at the link patterns there.

]]> by: Jason Roe http://blog.whoisireland.com/2007/03/21/adding-ie-domain-history-information/#comment-60224 Thu, 22 Mar 2007 22:20:10 +0000 http://blog.whoisireland.com/2007/03/21/adding-ie-domain-history-information/#comment-60224 I know there was the case in the UK, but i think it was resolved .. Maybe .ie is still up in the air? As far as i can see .. when a .ie domain drops, all of the links drop within a month after this the toolbar PR refreshes come refresh time. As such this is a sign that google is dropping everything. The pr will remain but that is the case with every domain.. forget about PR and look at links! Maybe there is a loophole between refreshes in some rare cases.. Google could miss a beat on the dropped domain front! It depends how the fetch the data and how often. I know you have seen a case where a domain was dropped and re-registered on the same day, it even confused your system if memory serves me. I know there was the case in the UK, but i think it was resolved .. Maybe .ie is still up in the air?

As far as i can see .. when a .ie domain drops, all of the links drop within a month after this the toolbar PR refreshes come refresh time. As such this is a sign that google is dropping everything. The pr will remain but that is the case with every domain.. forget about PR and look at links!

Maybe there is a loophole between refreshes in some rare cases.. Google could miss a beat on the dropped domain front! It depends how the fetch the data and how often. I know you have seen a case where a domain was dropped and re-registered on the same day, it even confused your system if memory serves me.

]]> by: John McCormac http://blog.whoisireland.com/2007/03/21/adding-ie-domain-history-information/#comment-60174 Thu, 22 Mar 2007 16:22:09 +0000 http://blog.whoisireland.com/2007/03/21/adding-ie-domain-history-information/#comment-60174 Well the cues in the TLDs are easier to detect Richard, Google does not handle the ccTLDs well and the .ie seems to be one of them. When local.ie dropped and was reregistered, Google apparently didn't vary the PR on the site even though the ownership and IP had changed. Then factor in the synchronisation of Google dances with the .ie drop schedule - the domains could be dropped and reregistered between two spiderings. To Google, it would appear that the site (if it had been live prior to being dropped, had just shifted IPs and or undergone an update. Without actually checking the whois data against a historical copy, Google would be stuck with analysing the difference in meta data and body text. Again that can shift drastically during a change of design or SEO. So a reregistered .ie site could effectively fall between the cracks unless Google keeps an eye on the whois. Well the cues in the TLDs are easier to detect Richard,
Google does not handle the ccTLDs well and the .ie seems to be one of them. When local.ie dropped and was reregistered, Google apparently didn’t vary the PR on the site even though the ownership and IP had changed. Then factor in the synchronisation of Google dances with the .ie drop schedule - the domains could be dropped and reregistered between two spiderings. To Google, it would appear that the site (if it had been live prior to being dropped, had just shifted IPs and or undergone an update. Without actually checking the whois data against a historical copy, Google would be stuck with analysing the difference in meta data and body text. Again that can shift drastically during a change of design or SEO. So a reregistered .ie site could effectively fall between the cracks unless Google keeps an eye on the whois.

]]> by: Richard Hearne http://blog.whoisireland.com/2007/03/21/adding-ie-domain-history-information/#comment-60108 Thu, 22 Mar 2007 08:49:40 +0000 http://blog.whoisireland.com/2007/03/21/adding-ie-domain-history-information/#comment-60108 <blockquote>Some .ie domains are quickly reregistered and it seems that Google has problems detecting any difference.</blockquote> Care to elaborate please on this point John? Interested to hear more. Rgds Richard

Some .ie domains are quickly reregistered and it seems that Google has problems detecting any difference.

Care to elaborate please on this point John?
Interested to hear more.

Rgds
Richard

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